In this powerful and unflinching interview, Douglas Murray delivers one of his most important analyses since October 7, drawing on six months spent in Israel following the Hamas terror attacks.

Murray speaks candidly about what he witnessed firsthand — the unprecedented brutality of Hamas, the psychological reality of terrorism, and the shocking pride terrorists displayed while carrying out atrocities against Israeli civilians. Having covered conflicts around the world, Murray explains why October 7 represented a new level of moral depravity, unlike anything he had seen before.

The conversation goes far beyond the battlefield. Murray dismantles the concept of so-called “proportionality,” exposes how Hamas casualty figures were laundered through Western media, and explains why Israel was judged by standards no other nation in modern warfare has ever been held to. He compares Israel’s war against Hamas to Western military campaigns against ISIS in Mosul, Iraq, and Afghanistan — asking why the rules suddenly change when Jews are involved.